Book of Moon - Staple or not?
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Book of Moon - Staple or not?
So let's talk about Book of Moon. The main thing in which I am interested for people to have some input is the question of whether Book of Moon should be considered a "staple".
I know of some very accomplished players who consider it to be a staple in just the same way as Dark Hole is, and also Heavy Storm or Monster Reborn were, when they were legal. That is, you can and should put it in almost any deck. In just the same way that every deck uses Dark Hole unless there is a very good reason why they shouldn't, so too should every deck begin by using Book of Moon, unless it conflicts with something specific in the deck.
Some other players I have spoken to, however, believe that Book of Moon is highly overrated. These players fully understand how to use the card, and how versatile it can be, but just feel that it is not powerful. Some have even said that it could become unlimited and it probably would not affect the game in any great way.
I think that most players are probably in the third group, those who maintain that Book of Moon is a good card, and has its place, but should not go into every deck automatically. At the moment, I would place myself in this camp. I use it in Geargias because of Geargiarmor, I use it in Spellbooks because of Spellbook Magician of Prophecy, but I don't use it in Frog Monarchs. It wouldn't be a terrible choice, I just feel that, on balance, it wouldn't do very much.
So, where do you guys stand on this? Do think Book of Moon is:
1) a staple, deserving a place in almost every deck?
2) overrated, only deserving a place in very few decks?
3) a good card, though not a staple; great in some decks, not so good in others?
I know of some very accomplished players who consider it to be a staple in just the same way as Dark Hole is, and also Heavy Storm or Monster Reborn were, when they were legal. That is, you can and should put it in almost any deck. In just the same way that every deck uses Dark Hole unless there is a very good reason why they shouldn't, so too should every deck begin by using Book of Moon, unless it conflicts with something specific in the deck.
Some other players I have spoken to, however, believe that Book of Moon is highly overrated. These players fully understand how to use the card, and how versatile it can be, but just feel that it is not powerful. Some have even said that it could become unlimited and it probably would not affect the game in any great way.
I think that most players are probably in the third group, those who maintain that Book of Moon is a good card, and has its place, but should not go into every deck automatically. At the moment, I would place myself in this camp. I use it in Geargias because of Geargiarmor, I use it in Spellbooks because of Spellbook Magician of Prophecy, but I don't use it in Frog Monarchs. It wouldn't be a terrible choice, I just feel that, on balance, it wouldn't do very much.
So, where do you guys stand on this? Do think Book of Moon is:
1) a staple, deserving a place in almost every deck?
2) overrated, only deserving a place in very few decks?
3) a good card, though not a staple; great in some decks, not so good in others?
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Re: Book of Moon - Staple or not?
Book of moon is only consitent because it is at one, reason being you wait for the right time and not exploit it like dark world players do with gates or Infernaitys recycle Archfiend. This said id say its a semi-staple, you only use it in decks that need that control factor.
Edit: however I'd say it's more of a tech choice than a staple or semi-staple, because it's down to your deck build and what cards work with it and what cards don't. It's not over rated but it clearly shouldn't be in every deck, this is down to the players preference.
Edit: however I'd say it's more of a tech choice than a staple or semi-staple, because it's down to your deck build and what cards work with it and what cards don't. It's not over rated but it clearly shouldn't be in every deck, this is down to the players preference.
Re: Book of Moon - Staple or not?
I really don't think it's very good, there are better cards for most of what I would use it for.
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Re: Book of Moon - Staple or not?
I agree with your point Dominant Girl 92. It's not a card that you can spam in any deck any expect it to work out all the time. When you have flip effects or when your deck has a certain weakness against effects that could be solved by the opponent's monster not staying up, then you will obviousy play it.
Moon also gives you breathing space, since your opponent misses an attack and/or effect by using it smart.
However, one should not just toss it in a deck that already has trouble finding spots for other cards.
Moon also gives you breathing space, since your opponent misses an attack and/or effect by using it smart.
However, one should not just toss it in a deck that already has trouble finding spots for other cards.
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Re: Book of Moon - Staple or not?
Thanks everyone, I think we have a variety of opinions. I find it surprising though that no one so far has spoken in favour of Book of Moon's being a staple. Many people on DN swear that it is. One Italian friend of mine, who has won a number of Regionals and is a tournament judge, told me that Book of Moon is a card you should put into any deck if there is space. Anyone agree with him?
If I'm understanding everyone correctly who has responded so far, no one thinks this, but I'm curious to see if anyone out there does consider it to be truly "staple".
If I'm understanding everyone correctly who has responded so far, no one thinks this, but I'm curious to see if anyone out there does consider it to be truly "staple".
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Re: Book of Moon - Staple or not?
I truly try to put it into as many decks as possible, but only if I know that the deck won't be hurt by not having [Card name] in it instead of Book of Moon. But I STILL don't find it to be a staple.
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Re: Book of Moon - Staple or not?
I really don't like book of moon it can be used for spellbooks or something but that's only with flip effects or you can use it too stall which swords of revealing light can do much better or wall of revealing light, which are also limited to one.
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Re: Book of Moon - Staple or not?
swords of revealing light is at 3. O.o
and book of moon is chainable to the attack w/out a massive life point cost
I consider book of moon better than wall of revealing light, but it isn't anywhere near a staple. a semi-staple, to be put into flip effect decks maybe. ghostricks for example can make a lot of use of it. not a staple in other cases though.
and book of moon is chainable to the attack w/out a massive life point cost
I consider book of moon better than wall of revealing light, but it isn't anywhere near a staple. a semi-staple, to be put into flip effect decks maybe. ghostricks for example can make a lot of use of it. not a staple in other cases though.
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Re: Book of Moon - Staple or not?
nope dominant girl u r actually wrong book of moon is good and over powered. It stops tour guide and those xyz and synchros, so reconsider ur argument plz. It also kills things with high attack so its pretty awesome
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Re: Book of Moon - Staple or not?
Drewzer44, I don't really know what you mean when you say I am "wrong" and need to reconsider my argument. I haven't taken a position on this topic, and I think I have expressed all the competing views equally. In fact, I tried very hard, when introducing this topic, to be as neutral as possible.
What I have done is explain the different views that players have, and opened up the topic for discussion; I think most other people have recognized this. All I have said is that I use it in some decks for some reasons, and not in other decks for other reasons. This isn't a forum for me to convince other people that my view of Book of Moon is right; truth be told, I am undecided on just how good this card is. I was hoping to get your opinions, and let you guys come to some sort of consensus.
Sorry, I thought I had made that clear.
What I have done is explain the different views that players have, and opened up the topic for discussion; I think most other people have recognized this. All I have said is that I use it in some decks for some reasons, and not in other decks for other reasons. This isn't a forum for me to convince other people that my view of Book of Moon is right; truth be told, I am undecided on just how good this card is. I was hoping to get your opinions, and let you guys come to some sort of consensus.
Sorry, I thought I had made that clear.
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Re: Book of Moon - Staple or not?
it really wasn't your fault. wasn't Drew's either. just a misunderstanding
looking at this, really you probably meant that I was wrong? or one of the others?
looking at this, really you probably meant that I was wrong? or one of the others?
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Re: Book of Moon - Staple or not?
umm i just meant that book of moon is a good card and u are wrong if u say otherwise, i win so much with that card tho, it is good offensive and defensive.
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Re: Book of Moon - Staple or not?
Yes I think hdlofstrom is right - Drewzer44, you were perhaps attempting to engage with what one of the other people said (which is why I was confused that you singled me out).
I certainly agree that Book of Moon can be a great card and has some very useful applications. But just for clarification, are you saying that it is "staple"?
Also: post number 100, guys! I think I deserve a cake and a massage.
I certainly agree that Book of Moon can be a great card and has some very useful applications. But just for clarification, are you saying that it is "staple"?
Also: post number 100, guys! I think I deserve a cake and a massage.
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Re: Book of Moon - Staple or not?
Gratz on 100th post! Can't bake for shit so no cake from me :[.Dominant Girl 92 wrote:Yes I think hdlofstrom is right - Drewzer44, you were perhaps attempting to engage with what one of the other people said (which is why I was confused that you singled me out).
I certainly agree that Book of Moon can be a great card and has some very useful applications. But just for clarification, are you saying that it is "staple"?
Also: post number 100, guys! I think I deserve a cake and a massage.
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Re: Book of Moon - Staple or not?
hdolf something I got confused so I don't care
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Re: Book of Moon - Staple or not?
hdlofstrom.
Dominant Girl, I sent you a mental pumpkin pie.
Dominant Girl, I sent you a mental pumpkin pie.
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Re: Book of Moon - Staple or not?
there are no such thing as staples, every card has a reason to exist, some are just too lazy to use the search button and try "new" cards ;3
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Re: Book of Moon - Staple or not?
personally, I check the New First option on DN every week or so.
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Me too hdlofstorm. It's nice checking for newer cards to use.
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Re: Book of Moon - Staple or not?
ikr. I've been looking at the new Shinra archetype, they might be cool with synchro lightsworns.
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